Episode 114 *spoiler*

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Episode 114 spoiler
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Namek_Nimrod	Oct 24 2017, 02:45 PM Post #46
Posts: 96 Group: Member Member #13,987 Joined: July 30, 2017	The u6 Saiyan I am thinking of is the one Cabba went to originally for ToP recruitment and he told Cabba to use Caulifa. I am not 100% certain but pretty certain that he looked big and muscular. The two female saiyans look athletic...Cabba just looks skinny and untrained. But I guess if Vegeta plans to mentor him properly in the future we could get a bulking and maturing process. Edited by Namek_Nimrod, Oct 24 2017, 02:46 PM.



Namek_Nimrod	Oct 24 2017, 02:50 PM Post #47
Posts: 96 Group: Member Member #13,987 Joined: July 30, 2017	Here is a link to the captain of the Saiyan army https://youtu.be/Ve8PdGk1uRs



superperfectnerd	Oct 24 2017, 03:05 PM Post #48
Posts: 3,718 Group: Member Member #11,519 Joined: July 15, 2014	Yeah Renso is bigger than Cabba, so what? Nappa was much bigger than Vegeta and any other saiyan we've ever seen and yet Vegeta was stronger. Both were relatively untrained and yet Nappa was muscular as hell. It's just character design. Nappa untrained = buffer than Schwarzenegger Cabba fighting alongside Frost against threats and training with Renso = skinnier than Michael Cera It's just design choice. I wouldn't be surprised if it was simply easier to draw as well. Full blooded saiyans have always grown in spurts too. Vegeta and Goku even as adults got randomly bigger all of a sudden and it didn't necessarily have to do with training but age...because again, Nappa was old but not well trained relatively speaking as he had a power lower than 8000. Edited by superperfectnerd, Oct 24 2017, 03:11 PM.



Bad User	Oct 24 2017, 03:17 PM Post #49
Posts: 630 Group: Member Member #13,968 Joined: July 23, 2017 Gender Other	superperfectnerd Oct 24 2017, 03:05 PM It's just design choice. Agreed, in fact it's pretty stupid that we're arguing Toriyama's choices with logical arguments. He obviously forgot how to Saiyan ever since DBS (how one should look like, how SSJ works etc.), but here we are. The thing is that with so little build-up for some characters that play a major role, we are left to deduce from other forms of indirect characterization. One of them is the appearance. I don't know why you mentioned Beerus, because every species has its own physical features, just like Saiyans have a tough physique to go with their everincreasing power levels. If they show us Cabba as a stickman, how are we supposed to believe he's done any forms of training his whole life except, cardio maybe? Don't tell me he's done the same very thing as Goku or Vegeta (thousands of pushups and other workouts at 100++G) buy his body stayed the same? As for Kale and Caulifla, they may be toned, but this is not a fitness contest. Again, they may have huge powerlevels, huge potential etc. but they noobs af. Ok we're overdoing this. Edited by Bad User, Oct 24 2017, 03:19 PM.



Namek_Nimrod	Oct 24 2017, 03:18 PM Post #50
Posts: 96 Group: Member Member #13,987 Joined: July 30, 2017	Vegeta and Nappa both looked like adults. Cappa looks young. Going off the captain of the Saiyan army the u6 saiyans don't just look different due to different evolutionary path....Cabba looks untrained and young. Edited by Namek_Nimrod, Oct 24 2017, 03:21 PM.



Namek_Nimrod	Oct 24 2017, 03:25 PM Post #51
Posts: 96 Group: Member Member #13,987 Joined: July 30, 2017	Adult saiyans and Cabba



Namek_Nimrod	Oct 24 2017, 03:26 PM Post #52
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superperfectnerd	Oct 24 2017, 03:28 PM Post #53
Posts: 3,718 Group: Member Member #11,519 Joined: July 15, 2014	Bad User Oct 24 2017, 03:17 PM superperfectnerd Oct 24 2017, 03:05 PM It's just design choice. Agreed, in fact it's pretty stupid that we're arguing Toriyama's choices with logical arguments. He obviously forgot how to Saiyan ever since DBS (how one should look like, how SSJ works etc.), but here we are. The thing is that with so little build-up for some characters that play a major role, we are left to deduce from other forms of indirect characterization. One of them is the appearance. I don't know why you mentioned Beerus, because every species has its own physical features, just like Saiyans have a tough physique to go with their everincreasing power levels. If they show us Cabba as a stickman, how are we supposed to believe he's done any forms of training his whole life except, cardio maybe? Don't tell me he's done the same very thing as Goku or Vegeta (thousands of pushups and other workouts at 100++G) buy his body stayed the same? As for Kale and Caulifla, they may be toned, but this is not a fitness contest. Again, they may have huge powerlevels, huge potential etc. but they noobs af. Ok we're overdoing this. Cabba was sent to fight universe 7 and was used to combating evil doers across the universe alongside Frost. He's not like a universe 7 saiyan who attacked a planet to sell it and their opponents strength wasn't really a factor and if it was, they'd pop out the oozaru state and therefore never get challenged much. Cabba is seeking out the corrupted to fight them and power corrupts so he's most likely spent time fighting the powerful exclusively and training with Renso to be an effective combatant and in Dragon ball a strong sparring partner is the best way to improve. I refuse to believe that universe 6 saiyans without doing anything at all strenuous are at the same level pretty much as base Goku and Vegeta and even Gohan. I mentioned Beerus because body type doesn't indicate power in Dragon Ball, even in the saiyans. They're this warrior, battle hardy race and their strongest fighter in recorded history is 5 foot 4 and skinny (in the saiyan saga). If build has anything to do with their power then Vegeta would be weaker than Raditz. That's just Cabba's build, he's small like Vegeta but he was their strongest fighter before Kale and Caulifla became a thing. He just happens to be quite young and skinny but that doesn't mean he's a rookie. Cabba being physically unimposing compared to his kin but the strongest/one of the strongest amongst them is the same character design choice as Vegeta in the saiyan saga. Vegeta stuck around and changing his design over time was more out of interest or Toriyam's changing way of drawing. Cabba may go through a similar process but it doesn't indicate power necessarily and doesn't mean he's untrained now. Edited by superperfectnerd, Oct 24 2017, 03:33 PM.



Namek_Nimrod	Oct 24 2017, 03:33 PM Post #54
Posts: 96 Group: Member Member #13,987 Joined: July 30, 2017	Comparing characters of the same race is fine....comparing characters that are different species is stupid. Vegeta is short and muscular....Nappa was tall and muscular. The muscles show a sign of training and adaption. Cabba has none of that... in fact he is about 1/3 of the size of all the other male saiyans on his planet with no muscles....whilst they're muscular. Just appears to me that he is young and hasn't finished growing and lacks training...hence Vegeta mentoring him.



superperfectnerd	Oct 24 2017, 03:36 PM Post #55
Posts: 3,718 Group: Member Member #11,519 Joined: July 15, 2014	It's design choice and youth. He isn't untrained, that would be foolish and stop inferring Toriyama's intentions from the first and strongest uni 6 fighter in the Champa arc to mean they're not experienced fighters. Of course they're going to have the saiyans in Kale's crew as big, dumb henchmen types but they are weaker than Cabba and Caulifla. That's just a narrative and design choice, same way Nappa is a big, dumb henchman but weaker than small man Vegeta. It means nothing. There's no way Toriyama was thinking this hard about it on designing Cabba to be thin. Other species and saiyan characters as well have had plenty of smaller characters be the strongest and it means nothing about their experience. Vegeta being small, muscular or not and being the strongest saiyan. Freeza's true form being the second smallest and the strongest Kid Boo being stronger than Fat Boo. Evil Boo being stronger than Good Boo Supreme kai being stronger than Kibito Beerus being strong and skinny ssjg Goku eing skinnier Edited by superperfectnerd, Oct 24 2017, 03:40 PM.



+ Ssj3vegito96	Oct 24 2017, 04:56 PM Post #56
Posts: 10,333 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	Cabbe is trained. We know this because he's fought in wars fighting alongside frost and has obviously dedicated his life to fighting. He wouldn't have been recruited by champa and vados to fight U7 if he wasn't particularly strong. Him being skinny is design choice
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antwun300	Oct 25 2017, 10:28 PM Post #57
Posts: 13 Group: New Member Member #14,098 Joined: October 12, 2017 Favourite Anime dbz	its gonna be fusion between kale and cauliflower... damn i love db and but dbs gets harder and harder to watch every episode. maybe 5 of the episodes have been good. the rest is trash.



superperfectnerd	Oct 27 2017, 01:09 AM Post #58
Posts: 3,718 Group: Member Member #11,519 Joined: July 15, 2014	It'll be hilarious if Vegeta has all of these mentor and master moments with Cabba, genuinely cares about making him stronger from the uni 6 arc up until now, Vegeta gives him that pep talk and his pupil gets ssj2...then the very next episode Goku casually teaches Caulifla ssj3. Vegeta can't even surpass Goku as a teacher. Kakarotto just has to one up him every damn time. Edited by superperfectnerd, Oct 27 2017, 01:11 AM.



StrenuousSpider	Oct 27 2017, 01:49 AM Post #59
Posts: 2,090 Group: Member Member #13,372 Joined: July 11, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	Apparently champa has some technique cant say if its fusion or not but as it stands it dose not look like goku will teach them fusion. Also arguably vegeta is stronger then goku atm. Besides UI of course.



jason vorhees	Oct 27 2017, 03:39 AM Post #60
Posts: 642 Group: Member Member #14,111 Joined: October 19, 2017 Gender Male Favourite Anime dragonball ,jjba,yugioh	this is gonna be pretty cool.i hope she is stronger than goku ssb Edited by jason vorhees, Oct 27 2017, 03:39 AM.



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